The history of the German short hair is the history of dogs the history of the makeup of the German Shorthair is the history of the different dogs that went into their makeup, a blend you might say so we're going to start with the Pointer because we know the English Pointer was placed in to the German short hair a few times over and in late has been placed into the American German Shorthair. So let's go back and take a look at the Pointers, We will be looking at what William Arkwright has to say in his book, The Pointer And His Predecessors An Illustrated History Tf The Pointing Dog From The Earliest Times (1906). We know that around 1907 that the black solid Arkwright Pointer Beachgrove Bess was added to the mix. We will also look at what other have to say about Pointers and their use in the makeup of the German Shorthair.
Let's start with what Sieger's book on page 99 about Christian Bode we find the following "
We have now arrived at the two greatest producers who played their part some 20 or 30 years ago Mars Altenau, 69P and Artus Sand 1830 V. They can be as little divorced from each other as the moon from the stars; first they are the most important stud aces in the whole breed of Shorthairs because their blood components agreed so excellently with one another flowing into each other like champagne and Pilsen beer. Mars supplied the Prickling ardour and Artus the well balanced and more even temperament. Many breeders learned at an early time about the harmonious accord and made good headway aspect Especially in the improvement of character and tractability. In the latter qualities the inbred Mars descendants lacked considerably. And why did they so? It is now the time to touch the Secret of our late Christian Bode.
The pedigree indicates Reno Pfaffendorf 519K as the grandsire of Fatme Altenau 68P, the dam of Mars. That is wrong not Reno Pfaffendorg 519K, but a good working Pointer covered the beautiful
But a good working pointer covered a beautiful Elfreide v.d. Hardt 96W and sired Hassan Altenau 712 K, who was the grandsire of Mars Altenau.
When regarding the picture of this greatest Altenau star, his desirable ideal form of head immediately strikes our eyes. His head is of a classical beauty and reveals in no way the Pointer that still lies so very near. We solely discern physical privileges. Despite his badly chosen station we recognize his long shoulder that is placed in a slanting position aside from its being wonderfully tied and thus allows the fore-chest to arch out amply. His back and straight and tense without losing its supplemeness, and the loins are broad and muscular. His head crowns this sublime build and fine tail concludes this harmonious picture.
So as we see not too far away from our one of our breed pillars is an English Pointer so let's look back at Bode and his friend Max Waechter of Wach GSPs, introduced the English Pointer Beechgrove Bess. Let's look at Georgiana Byrne's book the Dutch Kurzhaar, The German Shorthaired Pointer, page 23 under The Blacks.
In the early 1900s a number of concerned breeders, prominent amongst whom were Christian Bode the breeder of the Altenau GSP's and his friend and associate, Max Waechter of Wach GSPs, re-introduced black, in the form of solid black Arkwright pointers. This introduction was made in the hopes that both pigment and high nose would be improved Bode's business interests took him to England where he would have had the opportunity to see the Arkwright pointers working and perhaps to meet Mr. Arkwright himself so it may have been arranged by herr Bode for the Dr. Waechter to acquire his Pointer bitch Beechgrove Bess. It is interesting that Byrne uses the words solid black Arkwright pointers, and not just pointer!
So as we can see all German Shorthairs of present time that are black and most that aren't black can trace back to Beechgrove Bess and added to the other early introduction introduction of pointers so now we're going to jump to Arkwright and his book and pointers in general and the history of Pointer to figure out where pointers came from.
Arkwright starts on page 7 in his book, One of these is Brunetto Latini an Italian and the master of master of Dante, who during his exile in France from 1260 to 1267, wrote Li livers don Tresor. Among its descriptions of dogs this encyclopedia destroyed fall among the descriptions of dogs thisencyclopedic book contains the following passages: others are brachs (brachet) with falling ears, which know of beasts and birds (des bestes et des oisiaus) by the scent, therefore they are useful for sporting.
The other is Albertus Magnus 1193 to 1280 Bishop of Ratisbon in Germany, who in De Animalibus has this interesting account which is probably the earliest ever written.
The dog however, that are use for birds seem to have these more from training than from sense of smell, though they derive them from both. They are taught in this manner: they are first led round some caught partridges pretty often and at the length by threats learn to go round and round them; but they get to find the partridges by scent, and thus at the beginning they are set pretty often at the indications of captive birds book xxii., p. 175.
Arkwright further States: As we shall see further on the Italian writer was soon
supported by Dante and by the pictures of the eminent masters. But the German account is isolated so we must not infer from it that Germany possessed these dogs at this period especially at the Albertus was educated at Padus, and live for many years after in Italy in the heart of the pointer dog district. While on the other hand Das Buch der Natur, a 14th century book by R. A. von Merenburg, the earliest German authority on dogs does not record their being used for sport but only for guarding; it is 3 centuries later before we find the Germans employed foreign dogs for small game. Spanish dogs zealous for finding partridges and hares. In the quest of the bigger game they are not so much approved of, as they for the most part range widely, nor do they keep as near as genuine hunting dogs.
But if as is possible the smooth haired brach or pointing dog originated in Italy, the unanimity of the nations in procuring long haired spaniels, or setting dogs, from Spain seems to fix their birthplace with some certainty. Gaston phebus, the famous Comte de Foix, who himself owned from 1500 to 1600 dogs brought from all the countries of Europe (La Chasse, p. 368, by M. L. Cimber 1837), bears witness in 1378 to their introduction into France.
Arkwright page 9 early history there is a kind of a dog that is called a Falcon dog or spaniel because it comes from Spain however many there may be of them in other countries and these dogs have many of good qualities and bad ones also. A handsome Falcon dog should have a massive head and a large well made body his coat being white or cinnamon color because these are the most beautiful and of these colors there are many excellent; they should not be too hairy, and the end of the tail should be tufted. The good qualities of these dogs are that they are very faithful to their masters and follow them anywhere without being lost. They go also in the front of the birds willingly, ranging and making play with their tails and find all birds and all beasts, but their proper business is at the partridge and the quail for the man who has a good goshawk or falcon, lanner or tassel hawk, and a good sparrow hawk they are very useful, and also when one teachers them to set their game they are good for taking partridges and quail with the net; they are also good, when broken to the river, for the birds that is diving.... And as one talks of a greyhound of Britain, The boarhounds and bird dogs come from Spain.
Also on page 9: In1551 pierre de quinqueran de Beaujeu Bishop of Senes, writing of the setting dogs says: Spain has in common with us another kind of dog a middle sized that the other countries have no idea of and in the British Museum and Italian early 14th century MS. of book v. of the decretals of Gregory IX. contains an illumination representing a Spaniel is the representing a spaniel pointing at a hare.
Continued on page 9 onto page 10: After all these proofs of the estimation in which the Spanish setting dogs were formally held I turned to Spain itself confident of finding these records of the spaniel.
but Alas the early Spaniards must have been a leisurely race and their sportsman's not addicted to pen and pencil because the only picture I can find of a long haired sitting dog is in the Madrid gallery and it is of a early most typical dog certainly but engaged in carrying a piece of bread to San Roque.
Page 10 towards the bottom: Having ascertained that the spaniels pass from Spain to France and having seen them established there I shall further trace them to England before attempting the attempting the pedigree of the short haired pointing dogs or brach.
Arkwright continues: Etymology inclines me to believe that England got her spaniels through France and not from Spain direct; for it would certainly be a strange coincidence if two nations were independently to invent names so similar: besides, dogs in those days could have been imported with much more ease from France then from Spain. I have found but one pronouncement in favor of the Spain direct theory which is that of a quotation in the sporting magazine of 1832.
Vespasian introduced the dogs probably Spaniards from Spain into island to help hawking. I have in vain trirf to find any reference to this in the histories of the Tacitus and the biography of Suetonius. So as there is no evidence of that Vaspasian ever visited Spain, as the elder plenty who published his national history during this reign never Alludes to Spanish dogs and as British hawking would have been decidedly rudimentary in the first century I think that this Vespasian idea may be pitched on to the other exposed fallacies.
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Doctor John case's of Cambridge was the 1st to describe them in his English dog's 1576 on page 13 and art right book he continues he tells of their method of working and it is working and among the dogs that serve for following recounts that there is also at this state among us a new kind of doggy bought out of France and they'd be speckled all over with white and black with mingled colors including to the
Mingled colors including the marble blue these are called French dogs as is above declared already then later Louis X1111 sent over James I sent over 2 James I some setting dogs as a present for for Chamberlain road to Carlton 1624 a French Baron A good Falcon has brought him the king 16 cast of hawks from the French king with horses and setting dogs he made a special splendid entry
With his train by torchlight and will stay till he has instructed some of the other people in his kind of falconry though it cost his majesty so much A-day.
So as our word spaniel is most probably a French origin and our earliest thesis on setting spaniels is borrowed in its entirety from the French as the English author who was the 1st to give his own ideas about them avows that marble blues nowadays called blue Belton's came blue Belton's came from France as afterwards all recorded importations were from France France and as there seems pretty spretty sure that the setting spaniels threw a originated
In Spain were from the early pfrom the early. Naturalized in France and conferred on us by the later country in the preceding pages this has not been my object to trace to the remotest limits of history of the Falcon dog although that task would be an interesting one as before the awakening of their pointing and setting instincts they do not concern concern the present investigation..
Arkwright goes on on page 14 now to revert to my main theme the smooth haired pointing dog but before I Marshall all my evidence concerning him I must remark that as regards to his pedigree I have come to the conclusion similar to that a baffon who in his work has declared that the pointing dog and the hounds have descended from one and the same stock.
Arkwright page 15 the 1st likeness of a pointing dog that I have found is an offensive pencil pencil sketch of a head plate by an Italian P ISA NE LLO 1380 to 1456 which is supported by a painting plate number 3 and also buy another picture in 1510th to 1590 something in Madrid the scene of this lay at last is laid in the garden of Eden and here I concur is a Bronco staunchly pointing partridges which painted in all seriousness shows that rosano it was that rasano and established dog lover had never heard of a. Without its partridge dogs Period
Spain as well as Italy gives indications of indications of the antiquity of the pointing dog as the oldest writer's advice crosses between him and the hound to improve the latter from the 15th century MS and the British museum I also had another dog breed from a hound and a partridge bitch a church bitch excellent on the leash and in the following any the following any kind of deer he worked well in the sun which I believe he got from I'm the partridge bitch for these works hard in the heat better than other dogs and have very fine noses for it takes a fine nose to find a partridge especially in the woods.
Again from the 16th century MS atmadrid Salvador salvano if any time we cannot find very pure bred hounds with what dog can one cross them to and have a good breed mantown read montano from a pure bred hound and a appointing bitch each the purest of its race light and body and wiry and with a good nose from these extract it is clear that the partridge dog of Spain must have been an old established separate breed long before the 15th century otherwise they could not have implanted it in hounds their own Definite characteristics.
This This is very interesting for Arkwright goes on to make a point that there are 2 types of pointing dogs in Spain one being heavier and 1 being lighter he States there are other that are called hounds and of them there are 2 kinds some of less activity thactivity than the others because they are much heavier these are called Navarre 1st or French because they were bred from France it is also of this line they have a very varied on large head and muzzle Blunt the ears rayed long and broad and they are very heavy everywhere they are by nature headstrong and easily He is tired although of excellent nose and Santee powers he goes on to state to contrast him with the Spanish hounds which were much lighter and more active were very persistent and untiring at their work Anne ha
And untiring at their work and had fair noses thus there were 2 types of hounds in Spain from which apparently sprang 2 types of pointing dogs the one of the heavier barrel-shaped Navarre's partridge dog painted by painted by Vasquez and by espinosa and other ashish cry by espinosa so swift that they seem to fly..
Alright so aren't quite goes on to make his points on page 20 he States I have now sufficiently examined how in the days of the early emphasy of the pointing dog were spoken of everywhere by the name of somehow or other and how the same author would frequently call hounds and pointing dogs by the same title almost on the same page it remains to show how little would have been required to change the French Lamar with the English word be called limmer by or leash dog into a pointing dog to avoid prolaxity I will take the French description as typical they are perhaps the clearest but similar definitions occur also in the books of other languages
So art right on page 22 is trying to pull some of the stuff together the earliest mention of this race the block Braque that we find is that of an Italian bitch BAU DE which about 1480 was crossed with a white Saint Hubbard HU Bert dog.. The bro Braque of Italy was white broad was of this color I have heard too that after his captivity Franco's the 1st took back with him from somebody 80 sporting dogs but as I have not been lucky enough to verify this I only give it as a rumor about this time moreover even Spain herself did not disdain 2 borrowed dogs from Italy as witnesses of the following concerning the renew renowned partridge dogs of Georgia a in part in this part of Spain Valencia there are no pure bred sporty native dogs of any kind The famous breed that existed here for 3 centuries the Georgia was called from the little coast town of the name Diana where they were raised are now
Or now extinct or so crossed by inferior breeds as to be indistinctible they were nearly pure white as much lighter than the old Navarro stock they were noted for their gentleness and fineness of nose I've known but we're walking in backbone for rough work tradition says they were a foreign origin the 1st pair being presented by an Italian Prince account of account of Georgia the fact that they 1st came into notice in an unimportant coast town gives color to the tradition that they were not of Spanish origin.
But doubtless the French were the chief admirers of the Italian block called in the 16th century calmed a rottweiler of the net
And his popularity with them is evidenced by their having adopted his name which was easily recast and converted into their idiosm as CHI END ARRET literally stop dog which term obscurity did not exist in France before the 17th century and after a time though the heavier type of their own and an averse brat still survived it was quite ellipsed by the beautiful and racing yeah at a beautiful end racing like Italian dogs which with Lewis XIV and Lewis XV filled their kennels and the port's and something with each other and painting painting with such truth and skill The brocus that
The portus and Autry have handed down to prosperity in their paintings and not belong to the kings of France were probably descended from the fallen white block of italk of Italy the old French broke of native origin did not achieve popularity tool considerably later for I gather from less racist resources by imagines that this dog is called the block of Charles V and I have no evidence to show that he had any ancestral share in producing the English pointer of the pictures of deportes and entree in the lov Lou in the adult loop I have to limit my selection of 21 by each artist plates which were so
Many were typical it was an ungrateful task among those I have especially regret is a portrait of tan I practically white bitch black nose and of the highest quality but plate 5 has an interest quite apart from its initial charm because it is dated 1720 according to Louis official catalog now this is just 5 years before the date on the 3rd perpetual thrust be picture by somebody else this last front piece is of the Duke of Kingston and his pointers and is I believe the earliest record of the race that I have ever that has ever existed in England all of these pointers are procedurally of the elegant Franco-italian type
Which not remarkably considering the Duke was constantly in France lived with a French Mrs. And had for his intimate friends the count DE boufan the estimated neutral something but it must not be assumed that the 1st importation of pointing dogs into England was from France or something or softer crisis allowed against this it reveals that the word pointer is a corruption of the Spanish DE ponto and the hour neward was to us at easy and appropriate as even their witty something else 2 hour neighbors and also insists that the Spanish partridge dog Unlike the spaniels was not introduced to us
Via France because the name pointer belongs only to Spain and England and there is additional proof of this successful Spanish invasion in thenglish invasion and the something old name of English dog in the numberless dawn something and more especially in the portal evidence something of a Spanish dof the Spanish dog again the 1st pointing dog was called in England the Spanish pointer for instance in the earliest notice of him that I have found page 20 Arkwright.
The Spanish pointer is esteemed the incomparable and even without teaching will point naturally at a Partridge and as he is large will reif is large will range well and stand high enough to appear above the high stubble and yet one may breed him to stand till a net be drawn over him but his ma'am but it's hard to do however when he points you may be sure a bird with a gunshot.
The Spanish pointer was introduced into this country by a Portugal merchant at a very modern. Anne was 1st used by an old reduced Baron of the name of bitchill who lived in Norfolk and could shoot flying indeed he seems to have lived by his gun as the game he killed was sold in the London market arc Wright page 25 continued this valuable accusation from the continent was wholly unknown to the ancestors together with the art of shooting flying It was noteworthy that Mr. Edwards connects the introduction of the introduction of the pointer with that of shooting flying pointers as noted has yet been published on these dogs I am inclined
Inclined to think that they were originally brought from other countries though now very common in England there are great utility and excellence in shooting partridges more or health game make them worthy of our regard as well known the art of shooting 1767 Mr. Page was very well known gunmaker and his statements made when the middle of the century was long passed that he had not met with any work dealing with pointers is interesting as evidence of the bareness of the 18th century as regards to books on this kind of sport the pointer of that kind of dog was introduced here in the beginning of the present century and is acknowledged to be a native of Spain and Portugal as many were and yet are brought to us from both kingdoms the 1st I remember to have seen was about 40
40 years back athesis of field driven divisions by H sumpton 1776 this is a direct statement of an educated gentleman and noticed sportsman's and so it was a great value would take it in connection with other proofs. Mp
Yeah all right I have skipped some of what Arkwright said but on page 27 he wants to sum some of the stuff up I have now stated all my evidence about the advent of the pointer and we'll proceed to sum it up the entire silence of the author up to this closed of the 17th century would alone be enough to justify the hypothesis that the pointer was unknown in England before the 18th century but when this silence is corresponded by the opinion of the 18th century sporting writers in general by Mr. Simmons direct statement in particular and by the inherent testimony of the sportsman's directory that even in 1735 this dog was not widely known Suppose Harkins into certainty supposition
Hardens into certainty the assertion therefore seems justified that 1700 is the earliest possible date for the introduction into England of the pointing dog while 1725 the date of the Duke of Kingston's picture of there's a picture of French pointing dogs of course determines the latest there is also something proof that the pointer pointers were not imported 1st from France so that epic clarity lies between 1725 and 1700 a lucky clue of quants assumption certain declaration of point dogs were heard foreferred a forced in England About the time of Lord Petersburg's yeah it's burned Petersburg's campaigns into Spain.
The English commenced the war of Spanish succession in 17 0 4 but Lord Petersburg was recalled in 17 0 6 it is not likely that he himself took any dogs back with him because he was not a sportsman because he went home by the way of Italy Austria Germany taking a year over the journey and because he left in disgrace but by and disgraced but by the peace of your Tech the war was determined terminated in 1713 and the British army returned to England now nothing could be more natural than for the British officers to carry away with amspecimens of the wonderful pointing dogs from this country in which they had spent nearly 9 years
It is also intelligible enough now that this importation should have escaped the notice of the Chronicles amid the stir of bustle cause by the return of the entire army if they carefully consider the evidence I believe my readers will be for one opinion with me as to the pointing dogs having 1st arrived in England with the returning soldiers after the peace of Europe your Tech 4 though many of the arguments are inductive and much of the evidence is circumstantial they are nonetheless irresistible to nearly to the parts of the puzzle dove tail into 1 another.
Arch right goes on and paid 29 to some things up a little bit hes quoting from Spanish work and = the entirety from the translation he did himself the most notable way and the best sport that exists is to kill them partridges over pointing dogs which is none of the following manner which is done in the following manner as thepartures is have to be found by the powers of the dog which cannot come across them so will by sight or hearing as by smelling the 1st thanks the sportsman Must do on reaching the shooting ground is to know the direction of the wind and having got it in his face seek the birds thus from haunt to haunt on reaching the 1st heart he should look
4 the highest point point and may make a start there holding up the dog and making him keep on crossing the win and the common terms for telling him what's what he has to do or try here back here go there try up try down calling him by his name
Talking about a early pointing dog having an arranging found the game partridge quill Woodcock hairs rabbits and the like which is indeed their nature they stop quite short and bowing their knee binyeah I mean there needs bend their nose and buy their gestures substitutes for words point out the game others glued to the ground away the ground await the hunters who put it into position his crossbow or something ranges 3 to 4 times around the dog not daring to stop walking nor measure his shot until he can spy his quarry covering under a turf that he may get an open shot at it.
Art right does talk about German German dogs on paid 61 heat States States in like manner the old sporting literature of Germany is very interesting but the greater part of it lies beyond the boundaries of this book as the German pointing dogs though probably offshoots from the same tree were in no way considered in the birth of the pointer I shall "however a few passages mainly connected with a method of work which distinctly assist my history of the sport we are the sport and early specimen of this is
Is found in a curious remarkable remical rhymes call form on the title page of something published anonymously in 1569 ""when he perceives game he holds himself still before approaching it and indicates it's presence with his tale to the hunter who follows carefully whenever the scenting dog the scenting dog guides to where the game sets in secure comfort.
Paid 62 another "and guzzner wrote up yesterday gazner wrote about 1551 we Germans and French call these dogs quail dogs because they were it's because their work is particularly concerned with this class suburb the Italians called them netdogs for they helped them with their nets in which they will even allow themselves to be enveloped whence they derive another name with us
. An interesting note that probably doesn't have much to do with the early pointer infusion in the German short hair but probably has a lot to do with the later infusion of an American German shorthaired pointers that have a lot of English pointer in them it seems that in 1880 in England the showdog could become popular and they were getting further and further away from field qualities and they were looking more and more for show qualities so they introduced foxhound yet foxhound and the Fox some of the foxhound coloring And that was a big problem and the reason probably doesn't have anything to do with the early introduction into the German shorthair because Arkwright never there was involved in this type of shows or
So arc Wright had pure English pointers with no contamination of foxhound so when we got the dog beach grow best the black short hair that was in a black pointer that was introduced into the short hairs there were no foxhounds but later that became prevalent in the introduction of English pointers in America into the German short hair probably have a lot of folks down in them the reason for the reason for the coloring and the reason for the high tail which the pure English pointers do not have that probably derived from foxhounds either in Germany I mean in England or later in America and as we talked about the other kind of Clandestine Clandestine breeding through Boyd that English point
May or may not have had contamination my guess is probably not the time that this was going on now when they got those English pointers they probably was around this time or before so the odds are that it was a puring disappointment without foxhound.
So let's see what Arkwright says about the Fox town introduction in around 1880 I would guess but he says it was in the last year of the 18th century that years that the crying sand against the pointer was committed by meeting him with the Fox hound had he been crossed once again with a tender nosed statuess Saturday's Southern town the effect would not have been disastrous but the dashing harem Skinner foxhound was the next similarly mustavius mastevious selection I suppose that the idea of the cross originated from the The superstition indulged in by many that the Fox hunt was a sort of chosen dog and at the
Chosen dog and that it accumulated in our own day with the efforts of fanciers to engraft an antipical appearance on the pointer for showing purposes in the beginning there was no concealment about the matter the cross was discussed with perfect frankness though of course the hound like appearances were obliterated as soon as possible literally however the process was reversed for the great for the great retentance of displayed in acknowledging howblood although the hound type was openly
Advocate colonel Thornton who kept both foxhounds and pointers was the 1st to intermix the 2 Brit's due intermixed the 2 breaths icy lacked quotations from seaham Edwards this commentary on the subject "the sportsmans has improved the breed by selecting the lightest and gayest individuals and by a judacious cross with a Fox owned to procure courage and fleetness his fleetness his high spirit and eagerness for the sport render him infallible it's infallible to extremely difficult of education his dication his impatience and company Subject him to desire to be foremost in the
. Is foremost in the point and not give the sportsman time to come up to run in upon the game particularly down with mark Wright's book page 150 continued the most judicious cross appears to have been with the Fox hound as by this has been acquired speed and courage power and perseverance and it is disabled it is this advantage difficulty on training them to be staunch staunch I believe the celebrated colonel Thornton 1st made the cross and from his producing excellent dogs has been very generally followed Period. unfortunate that colonel Thornton should have succeeded so soon in producing such an eminent dog as dashe's that dog as - this was an extraordinary worker and was sold for a substantial price enough to set half the readers in England crazy to try the same experiment in breeding.
What are well understood amongst sportsmans by the term crossbread dog ribbing guard the concept through an extraordinary animal 1 in 10000 perhaps has been occasionally produced the late colonel Townsend's - Townsend's - is the most celebrated of these semi mongrels - was proceeded by a cross of the Fox town with a highly bred pointer bitch he was remarkable for his style and ranging upon the moors as well as 4 His superior method of finding game he he was equally excellent and partridge shooting and backed other dogs as steadily as possible this dog was sold to the late
Sir Richard Simmons 1 for 160 pounds worth of champagne and burgundy which had been purchased at the French ambassador sale a hawk's head of claret and elegant gun and a pointer with the stipulation that if any accident fell upon him he might render him unfit to hunt he was to be returned to the colonel for 50 guineas - had the misfortune to break his leg he was therefore sent to colonel Thornton who paid the 50 guineas and kept the dog as a stallion from whom however a single well worth keeping was never produced nor was such a circumstance very likely The stock of these cross bread dogs is unfortunately good-for-nothing, The sportsman's 1836 volume volume triple I number 4 page 185.
I find this interesting on page 152 archwright States the following I have used this mode of expression as a best rev expression as the best circulated to convey my mean which may be more clearly understood perhaps by further stating that there are homogeneous and heterogeneous crosses the former desirable and the later rarely answering and intended purpose when for instance the English pointer after breeding in the same family too long becomes too light and is head to narrow a dip of Spanish blood is advisable or the heavier dog of this country may be employed for the requisite purpose which I call a homogeneous cross while the cross with a center and a pointer I deem heterogeneous and it's peterogeneous and with a capable dog happens to be thus obtained
Obtained he is not calculated for pro generation shooters shooters prosecutor by Johnson 1842 page 147.
Arkwright goes on to state for my own part Ellen part are often used to wish that the colonel good sportsman as he undoubtedly was could look down or up to see what a massive parliss invention of a foxhound cross had ultimately made of the pointer since the fancy had taken to wallowing in that blood which he had used home Homo pathically I wished hit's more pathetically I wish him no further punishment than one good look round the pointer classes at the particular show but the type is better now than it was 10 years ago when the pointer ring Reminded one of the schoolboys miss applied slate overspret
With knots and crosses last greenham show 1901 I spied a bit of really distinguished appearanyet the stingwashed appearance and as she held from an unexpected quarter the pleasure was doubled i have lately seen 1 or 2 others of the right sort also cropping up so let us hope that they like the snowdrops Herald a happy re awakening when the pointer shall be to use a Shakespeare an expression fancy free.
Some of what Arkwright says could be used today as far as pretty German shorters he says of course as in the case of - a violent outcross may produce a good even an estimate animal but it destroys all continuity and breeding and is responsible for a large population of marlboroubashing amogos one swallow does not make summer nor 1 dog a team about crosses for the pointer I must add the following opinions taken from the book of 2 of the most famous 19th century writers on sport.
The further any dog is removed from the original Spanish pointer the worst the dog is and consequently all attempts to cross the pointer with any other breed must necessarily deteriorate the deteriorate to breed why they should the pointer be crossed with dogs which in so far as the sport of the field our concerns scarcely inherit one quality in common with him attempts however are constantly made to improve the pointer by a cross with a bloodhound Fox hound Newfoundland dogged the mastiff sometimes with a view of improving his appearance and bringing him to some fancied standard of perfection but in reality introducing a deformity 1 of these imaginary standards
Of perform perfection is that to one part through Spanish blood the pointer should have in him and 8th of the Fox town and a 16th of a bloodhound a cross will sometimes produced dogs which are in some eyes the some eyes the beauty ideal of beauty but however handsome such dogs may be they will necessarily present some qualities not belong in to the pointer for Amsterdam for instance across with the hound Gives the propensity to trace hairs if not to give tongue we'll give tongue a thoroughbred pointer carries his head well up with ranging he warranging he will not give time
He will not give tongue nor nor has he much desire to Chase footed game the hound pointer may succeed the pointer may sometimes be detected by his coarse ears by his tail being curled upwards and being carried high or by his rough coat an occasional cross with the master for newful and dog is said to increase the fitness of nose butthe ness of knows but it is converting the pointer into a Mirror retriever.
The best pointer is the offspring of a pointer bitch by a pointer dog such a one as nearly broken by nature the Spanish pointer seldom requires the whip the hound pointer has never enough of it 1 of the main sources of the sportsman's pleasure is to see the dog's point well
. The shooter's Handbook by Oakley 1842 page 91.
. Pointing is hereditary in pointers and setters and puppies of a good bread and of a well educated ancestry take to pointing in game as naturally as to eating their food and not only do they of their own accord point steadily but also back each other quarter their ground regularly and in fact instinctively follow the example of the high bread and well-brought-up ancestors for my part I think it quite a superficial double crossing a good breed of pointers with foxhounds or any other kind of dog by the way of adding speed and strength you lose more than you gain by giving at the same time Hard headdiness and obscency it is much better
It is much better if you fancy your breed of pointer's or setters to be growing small or degenerate to cross them with some different family up pointers or setters of a stronger or faster make of which you will be sure to find plenty with very little trouble wild sports of the Highlands by Saint John 1846 page 116.
All right let's finish up with the arc right just because what he has to say here can be of great importance to the German short hairbreeder but in a slightly different manner "page 159 let me repeat that to cross a pointer breed with a non pointing breed is to reduce the offspring of the pointing instinct by 1/2 and therefore very often in breaking these marginal supportin these mongrel's appointing that should come naturally has to be taught by severe and laborous lessons the same remark applies still more forcibly to backing which is simple pointing on trust without verification The reason why the black breed of pointers of pointers and I energetic here that that's what was yet what was placed into the German short hair through the archwright pointers.
. The reason why the black bread breed of pointers at the present day surpasses the piebald and its instinctive knowledge of its work is because it has not been crossed fortunately its habitat was not in the shot sires Norwood Norwood a - of tricolor have improved its complexion had all the breeds of pointers been kept equally pure there would be 50% more pointers used in Britain today but those wild but those wild disobedient half hounds are a vexation of spirit.
Far be it that for me to desperate is to disappreciate the Fox hound a perfect dog for its own work and I should consider a freshould consider a fresh infusion of pointer blood into him just as objectible as the converse but I maintain that the pointer ought to be the more courageous and delicate nose of the 2 considering the nature of its duties for a pointer has to gallop for a longer time than a hound and on the moors over much rougher ground while this continuous galloping has to be done in cold blood before finding his game not on hot pursuit of it then frc
As to knows the pointer in his work has to and does catch descent and far longer distance than a hound for often I have seen the pack and covered nearly surrounded some Bush and happy ignorance that the Fox was there till it jumped up right among them to compare the 2 breeds I must borrow an illustration from the army from the army the Fox hound is like a private soldier well is private soldier well made active is active strong
Courageous and by training obedient but there it is he has no scope for intelligent he will be soon drafted as a scooter order he do not keep with the pack on the other hand the pointer with all its talents of a hound and Minnie supergated resembles a scout he works singularly receiving orders it is true but depending on his own wits For the mode of carrying them out in short he has to preserve by himself in his quest to act on his own initiative and to use much craft that he may find without disturbing
And his forsooth is the animal the product of generations of high breeding to be improved by a cross of a Fox hound. Period!
. I am convinced from my own experience that the Fox town crowd cross has proved disastrous 2 to the sporting value of those families a poinyet those families of pointers into which it has been introduced as might indeed be expected when one considers the very different branches of the sport in which the 22 breeds are used on myself I've tried many of these dogs with a - of the hound in them and I have found when they work But they take much more breaking than appear pointers being unruly unscbeing unruly uncertain jealous of backing hair chasers and seekers after footscent in preference
Impreference to body scent and I have also found a good many that are non workers being almost devoid a bird hunting ambition and so slack milded as to be practically useless of course there are brilliant exceptions but they are exceptions and even from such there is no certainty in breeding
Another pointer reference is in Bryan's book on page 7 she States it is anniversary to compare the English pointer dog special with triff 56 of Walden specials owner Mr. G Thorpe barnham also owned a winning pointer bitch Stella whose sire was a famous stud sancho Stella closely resembles a pointer called sancho he picked it retrieving a facet in a painting by Meredith Hardy's book one wonders whether a relative of these dogs consider to be an outstanding specimen of performing England was used by early German breeders and Hans was behind Nero.
Another reference in Bryant's book on paid 71 of the greatest pillars of the breed are the sand 1830 V was a great great grandson of tell on both sides of his pedigree although art's head type appears to have been distinctly different from tells the virtues of health longevity and a docile type for which tale had been noted were certainly represented it in artists tell from the photograph appears to be rather light and color it was in the year of his bird 19 0 7 that the black arthrite pointer beach Grove best was brought to Germany with the object of improving both pigment and air sending ability high nose one man involved with an importation of bass was Christian Boyd owner of the famous
. All to do a favor a fix ALTEN AUA fix a FFI X. Her Boyd was merchant whose business took him to England where he spent some years whilst there he developed appreciation for the best working pointers and upon its return to Germany,
He set about producing service or hair pointers which could hold their own with the pointers whilst retaining their resatility in other spheres Boyd yesterday'd followed a policy of inbreeding and line breeding to fix type and indeed the descendants of his dogs in particular the bitch Bessie altenu 6 altenu 693C and the dog Mars alteno prours alteno proved to be of tremendous and lasting importance to the breed both mar's altitude wealth and 1914 artist sandwell to 1921 where descendants from Bessie The combination of those 2 dogs largely through Mars sun being made into artist daughters was considered by breed historians to be ideal mar
Mars was a favorite of doctor Clement who praised him for his confirmation and for his fine nose in the adjustable desire to his bold desire to track inability he was apparently a very hard headed dog and very sharp with predators artist stands there's artist Stan's artist sand in contrast to Mars was as mentioned earlier noted for his calmness of temperament his steel his skill exhibited however the desired qualities of a working ability in waterwoods and field both Mars and artists were believed to have had fairly recent infusions of appointer blood in Mars case it came from his grandsire Hassan altenu 712K who was thought to have been cited by a pointer in artist's case it was the dog
Golo howletzer 123 see whose distinctively dished face suggests point or origin artist himself sported a point of point of his head while a smart profile with the longest muzzle and ramp nose would meet with approval even to day it is inner resting to know that artist sancire ilamo zote Vaughan cushioned June 21T had a number of watched watch dogs in his pedigree wash in his pedigree wash was the prefix of doctor washed her and associate with her Boyd in the introduction of black pointer to the breed one wonders of artist pointer characteristics stem from those dogs as well as from the rather controversial Golo Period
Let's start with what Sieger's book on page 99 about Christian Bode we find the following "
We have now arrived at the two greatest producers who played their part some 20 or 30 years ago Mars Altenau, 69P and Artus Sand 1830 V. They can be as little divorced from each other as the moon from the stars; first they are the most important stud aces in the whole breed of Shorthairs because their blood components agreed so excellently with one another flowing into each other like champagne and Pilsen beer. Mars supplied the Prickling ardour and Artus the well balanced and more even temperament. Many breeders learned at an early time about the harmonious accord and made good headway aspect Especially in the improvement of character and tractability. In the latter qualities the inbred Mars descendants lacked considerably. And why did they so? It is now the time to touch the Secret of our late Christian Bode.
The pedigree indicates Reno Pfaffendorf 519K as the grandsire of Fatme Altenau 68P, the dam of Mars. That is wrong not Reno Pfaffendorg 519K, but a good working Pointer covered the beautiful
But a good working pointer covered a beautiful Elfreide v.d. Hardt 96W and sired Hassan Altenau 712 K, who was the grandsire of Mars Altenau.
When regarding the picture of this greatest Altenau star, his desirable ideal form of head immediately strikes our eyes. His head is of a classical beauty and reveals in no way the Pointer that still lies so very near. We solely discern physical privileges. Despite his badly chosen station we recognize his long shoulder that is placed in a slanting position aside from its being wonderfully tied and thus allows the fore-chest to arch out amply. His back and straight and tense without losing its supplemeness, and the loins are broad and muscular. His head crowns this sublime build and fine tail concludes this harmonious picture.
So as we see not too far away from our one of our breed pillars is an English Pointer so let's look back at Bode and his friend Max Waechter of Wach GSPs, introduced the English Pointer Beechgrove Bess. Let's look at Georgiana Byrne's book the Dutch Kurzhaar, The German Shorthaired Pointer, page 23 under The Blacks.
In the early 1900s a number of concerned breeders, prominent amongst whom were Christian Bode the breeder of the Altenau GSP's and his friend and associate, Max Waechter of Wach GSPs, re-introduced black, in the form of solid black Arkwright pointers. This introduction was made in the hopes that both pigment and high nose would be improved Bode's business interests took him to England where he would have had the opportunity to see the Arkwright pointers working and perhaps to meet Mr. Arkwright himself so it may have been arranged by herr Bode for the Dr. Waechter to acquire his Pointer bitch Beechgrove Bess. It is interesting that Byrne uses the words solid black Arkwright pointers, and not just pointer!
So as we can see all German Shorthairs of present time that are black and most that aren't black can trace back to Beechgrove Bess and added to the other early introduction introduction of pointers so now we're going to jump to Arkwright and his book and pointers in general and the history of Pointer to figure out where pointers came from.
Arkwright starts on page 7 in his book, One of these is Brunetto Latini an Italian and the master of master of Dante, who during his exile in France from 1260 to 1267, wrote Li livers don Tresor. Among its descriptions of dogs this encyclopedia destroyed fall among the descriptions of dogs thisencyclopedic book contains the following passages: others are brachs (brachet) with falling ears, which know of beasts and birds (des bestes et des oisiaus) by the scent, therefore they are useful for sporting.
The other is Albertus Magnus 1193 to 1280 Bishop of Ratisbon in Germany, who in De Animalibus has this interesting account which is probably the earliest ever written.
The dog however, that are use for birds seem to have these more from training than from sense of smell, though they derive them from both. They are taught in this manner: they are first led round some caught partridges pretty often and at the length by threats learn to go round and round them; but they get to find the partridges by scent, and thus at the beginning they are set pretty often at the indications of captive birds book xxii., p. 175.
Arkwright further States: As we shall see further on the Italian writer was soon
supported by Dante and by the pictures of the eminent masters. But the German account is isolated so we must not infer from it that Germany possessed these dogs at this period especially at the Albertus was educated at Padus, and live for many years after in Italy in the heart of the pointer dog district. While on the other hand Das Buch der Natur, a 14th century book by R. A. von Merenburg, the earliest German authority on dogs does not record their being used for sport but only for guarding; it is 3 centuries later before we find the Germans employed foreign dogs for small game. Spanish dogs zealous for finding partridges and hares. In the quest of the bigger game they are not so much approved of, as they for the most part range widely, nor do they keep as near as genuine hunting dogs.
But if as is possible the smooth haired brach or pointing dog originated in Italy, the unanimity of the nations in procuring long haired spaniels, or setting dogs, from Spain seems to fix their birthplace with some certainty. Gaston phebus, the famous Comte de Foix, who himself owned from 1500 to 1600 dogs brought from all the countries of Europe (La Chasse, p. 368, by M. L. Cimber 1837), bears witness in 1378 to their introduction into France.
Arkwright page 9 early history there is a kind of a dog that is called a Falcon dog or spaniel because it comes from Spain however many there may be of them in other countries and these dogs have many of good qualities and bad ones also. A handsome Falcon dog should have a massive head and a large well made body his coat being white or cinnamon color because these are the most beautiful and of these colors there are many excellent; they should not be too hairy, and the end of the tail should be tufted. The good qualities of these dogs are that they are very faithful to their masters and follow them anywhere without being lost. They go also in the front of the birds willingly, ranging and making play with their tails and find all birds and all beasts, but their proper business is at the partridge and the quail for the man who has a good goshawk or falcon, lanner or tassel hawk, and a good sparrow hawk they are very useful, and also when one teachers them to set their game they are good for taking partridges and quail with the net; they are also good, when broken to the river, for the birds that is diving.... And as one talks of a greyhound of Britain, The boarhounds and bird dogs come from Spain.
Also on page 9: In1551 pierre de quinqueran de Beaujeu Bishop of Senes, writing of the setting dogs says: Spain has in common with us another kind of dog a middle sized that the other countries have no idea of and in the British Museum and Italian early 14th century MS. of book v. of the decretals of Gregory IX. contains an illumination representing a Spaniel is the representing a spaniel pointing at a hare.
Continued on page 9 onto page 10: After all these proofs of the estimation in which the Spanish setting dogs were formally held I turned to Spain itself confident of finding these records of the spaniel.
but Alas the early Spaniards must have been a leisurely race and their sportsman's not addicted to pen and pencil because the only picture I can find of a long haired sitting dog is in the Madrid gallery and it is of a early most typical dog certainly but engaged in carrying a piece of bread to San Roque.
Page 10 towards the bottom: Having ascertained that the spaniels pass from Spain to France and having seen them established there I shall further trace them to England before attempting the attempting the pedigree of the short haired pointing dogs or brach.
Arkwright continues: Etymology inclines me to believe that England got her spaniels through France and not from Spain direct; for it would certainly be a strange coincidence if two nations were independently to invent names so similar: besides, dogs in those days could have been imported with much more ease from France then from Spain. I have found but one pronouncement in favor of the Spain direct theory which is that of a quotation in the sporting magazine of 1832.
Vespasian introduced the dogs probably Spaniards from Spain into island to help hawking. I have in vain trirf to find any reference to this in the histories of the Tacitus and the biography of Suetonius. So as there is no evidence of that Vaspasian ever visited Spain, as the elder plenty who published his national history during this reign never Alludes to Spanish dogs and as British hawking would have been decidedly rudimentary in the first century I think that this Vespasian idea may be pitched on to the other exposed fallacies.
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Doctor John case's of Cambridge was the 1st to describe them in his English dog's 1576 on page 13 and art right book he continues he tells of their method of working and it is working and among the dogs that serve for following recounts that there is also at this state among us a new kind of doggy bought out of France and they'd be speckled all over with white and black with mingled colors including to the
Mingled colors including the marble blue these are called French dogs as is above declared already then later Louis X1111 sent over James I sent over 2 James I some setting dogs as a present for for Chamberlain road to Carlton 1624 a French Baron A good Falcon has brought him the king 16 cast of hawks from the French king with horses and setting dogs he made a special splendid entry
With his train by torchlight and will stay till he has instructed some of the other people in his kind of falconry though it cost his majesty so much A-day.
So as our word spaniel is most probably a French origin and our earliest thesis on setting spaniels is borrowed in its entirety from the French as the English author who was the 1st to give his own ideas about them avows that marble blues nowadays called blue Belton's came blue Belton's came from France as afterwards all recorded importations were from France France and as there seems pretty spretty sure that the setting spaniels threw a originated
In Spain were from the early pfrom the early. Naturalized in France and conferred on us by the later country in the preceding pages this has not been my object to trace to the remotest limits of history of the Falcon dog although that task would be an interesting one as before the awakening of their pointing and setting instincts they do not concern concern the present investigation..
Arkwright goes on on page 14 now to revert to my main theme the smooth haired pointing dog but before I Marshall all my evidence concerning him I must remark that as regards to his pedigree I have come to the conclusion similar to that a baffon who in his work has declared that the pointing dog and the hounds have descended from one and the same stock.
Arkwright page 15 the 1st likeness of a pointing dog that I have found is an offensive pencil pencil sketch of a head plate by an Italian P ISA NE LLO 1380 to 1456 which is supported by a painting plate number 3 and also buy another picture in 1510th to 1590 something in Madrid the scene of this lay at last is laid in the garden of Eden and here I concur is a Bronco staunchly pointing partridges which painted in all seriousness shows that rosano it was that rasano and established dog lover had never heard of a. Without its partridge dogs Period
Spain as well as Italy gives indications of indications of the antiquity of the pointing dog as the oldest writer's advice crosses between him and the hound to improve the latter from the 15th century MS and the British museum I also had another dog breed from a hound and a partridge bitch a church bitch excellent on the leash and in the following any the following any kind of deer he worked well in the sun which I believe he got from I'm the partridge bitch for these works hard in the heat better than other dogs and have very fine noses for it takes a fine nose to find a partridge especially in the woods.
Again from the 16th century MS atmadrid Salvador salvano if any time we cannot find very pure bred hounds with what dog can one cross them to and have a good breed mantown read montano from a pure bred hound and a appointing bitch each the purest of its race light and body and wiry and with a good nose from these extract it is clear that the partridge dog of Spain must have been an old established separate breed long before the 15th century otherwise they could not have implanted it in hounds their own Definite characteristics.
This This is very interesting for Arkwright goes on to make a point that there are 2 types of pointing dogs in Spain one being heavier and 1 being lighter he States there are other that are called hounds and of them there are 2 kinds some of less activity thactivity than the others because they are much heavier these are called Navarre 1st or French because they were bred from France it is also of this line they have a very varied on large head and muzzle Blunt the ears rayed long and broad and they are very heavy everywhere they are by nature headstrong and easily He is tired although of excellent nose and Santee powers he goes on to state to contrast him with the Spanish hounds which were much lighter and more active were very persistent and untiring at their work Anne ha
And untiring at their work and had fair noses thus there were 2 types of hounds in Spain from which apparently sprang 2 types of pointing dogs the one of the heavier barrel-shaped Navarre's partridge dog painted by painted by Vasquez and by espinosa and other ashish cry by espinosa so swift that they seem to fly..
Alright so aren't quite goes on to make his points on page 20 he States I have now sufficiently examined how in the days of the early emphasy of the pointing dog were spoken of everywhere by the name of somehow or other and how the same author would frequently call hounds and pointing dogs by the same title almost on the same page it remains to show how little would have been required to change the French Lamar with the English word be called limmer by or leash dog into a pointing dog to avoid prolaxity I will take the French description as typical they are perhaps the clearest but similar definitions occur also in the books of other languages
So art right on page 22 is trying to pull some of the stuff together the earliest mention of this race the block Braque that we find is that of an Italian bitch BAU DE which about 1480 was crossed with a white Saint Hubbard HU Bert dog.. The bro Braque of Italy was white broad was of this color I have heard too that after his captivity Franco's the 1st took back with him from somebody 80 sporting dogs but as I have not been lucky enough to verify this I only give it as a rumor about this time moreover even Spain herself did not disdain 2 borrowed dogs from Italy as witnesses of the following concerning the renew renowned partridge dogs of Georgia a in part in this part of Spain Valencia there are no pure bred sporty native dogs of any kind The famous breed that existed here for 3 centuries the Georgia was called from the little coast town of the name Diana where they were raised are now
Or now extinct or so crossed by inferior breeds as to be indistinctible they were nearly pure white as much lighter than the old Navarro stock they were noted for their gentleness and fineness of nose I've known but we're walking in backbone for rough work tradition says they were a foreign origin the 1st pair being presented by an Italian Prince account of account of Georgia the fact that they 1st came into notice in an unimportant coast town gives color to the tradition that they were not of Spanish origin.
But doubtless the French were the chief admirers of the Italian block called in the 16th century calmed a rottweiler of the net
And his popularity with them is evidenced by their having adopted his name which was easily recast and converted into their idiosm as CHI END ARRET literally stop dog which term obscurity did not exist in France before the 17th century and after a time though the heavier type of their own and an averse brat still survived it was quite ellipsed by the beautiful and racing yeah at a beautiful end racing like Italian dogs which with Lewis XIV and Lewis XV filled their kennels and the port's and something with each other and painting painting with such truth and skill The brocus that
The portus and Autry have handed down to prosperity in their paintings and not belong to the kings of France were probably descended from the fallen white block of italk of Italy the old French broke of native origin did not achieve popularity tool considerably later for I gather from less racist resources by imagines that this dog is called the block of Charles V and I have no evidence to show that he had any ancestral share in producing the English pointer of the pictures of deportes and entree in the lov Lou in the adult loop I have to limit my selection of 21 by each artist plates which were so
Many were typical it was an ungrateful task among those I have especially regret is a portrait of tan I practically white bitch black nose and of the highest quality but plate 5 has an interest quite apart from its initial charm because it is dated 1720 according to Louis official catalog now this is just 5 years before the date on the 3rd perpetual thrust be picture by somebody else this last front piece is of the Duke of Kingston and his pointers and is I believe the earliest record of the race that I have ever that has ever existed in England all of these pointers are procedurally of the elegant Franco-italian type
Which not remarkably considering the Duke was constantly in France lived with a French Mrs. And had for his intimate friends the count DE boufan the estimated neutral something but it must not be assumed that the 1st importation of pointing dogs into England was from France or something or softer crisis allowed against this it reveals that the word pointer is a corruption of the Spanish DE ponto and the hour neward was to us at easy and appropriate as even their witty something else 2 hour neighbors and also insists that the Spanish partridge dog Unlike the spaniels was not introduced to us
Via France because the name pointer belongs only to Spain and England and there is additional proof of this successful Spanish invasion in thenglish invasion and the something old name of English dog in the numberless dawn something and more especially in the portal evidence something of a Spanish dof the Spanish dog again the 1st pointing dog was called in England the Spanish pointer for instance in the earliest notice of him that I have found page 20 Arkwright.
The Spanish pointer is esteemed the incomparable and even without teaching will point naturally at a Partridge and as he is large will reif is large will range well and stand high enough to appear above the high stubble and yet one may breed him to stand till a net be drawn over him but his ma'am but it's hard to do however when he points you may be sure a bird with a gunshot.
The Spanish pointer was introduced into this country by a Portugal merchant at a very modern. Anne was 1st used by an old reduced Baron of the name of bitchill who lived in Norfolk and could shoot flying indeed he seems to have lived by his gun as the game he killed was sold in the London market arc Wright page 25 continued this valuable accusation from the continent was wholly unknown to the ancestors together with the art of shooting flying It was noteworthy that Mr. Edwards connects the introduction of the introduction of the pointer with that of shooting flying pointers as noted has yet been published on these dogs I am inclined
Inclined to think that they were originally brought from other countries though now very common in England there are great utility and excellence in shooting partridges more or health game make them worthy of our regard as well known the art of shooting 1767 Mr. Page was very well known gunmaker and his statements made when the middle of the century was long passed that he had not met with any work dealing with pointers is interesting as evidence of the bareness of the 18th century as regards to books on this kind of sport the pointer of that kind of dog was introduced here in the beginning of the present century and is acknowledged to be a native of Spain and Portugal as many were and yet are brought to us from both kingdoms the 1st I remember to have seen was about 40
40 years back athesis of field driven divisions by H sumpton 1776 this is a direct statement of an educated gentleman and noticed sportsman's and so it was a great value would take it in connection with other proofs. Mp
Yeah all right I have skipped some of what Arkwright said but on page 27 he wants to sum some of the stuff up I have now stated all my evidence about the advent of the pointer and we'll proceed to sum it up the entire silence of the author up to this closed of the 17th century would alone be enough to justify the hypothesis that the pointer was unknown in England before the 18th century but when this silence is corresponded by the opinion of the 18th century sporting writers in general by Mr. Simmons direct statement in particular and by the inherent testimony of the sportsman's directory that even in 1735 this dog was not widely known Suppose Harkins into certainty supposition
Hardens into certainty the assertion therefore seems justified that 1700 is the earliest possible date for the introduction into England of the pointing dog while 1725 the date of the Duke of Kingston's picture of there's a picture of French pointing dogs of course determines the latest there is also something proof that the pointer pointers were not imported 1st from France so that epic clarity lies between 1725 and 1700 a lucky clue of quants assumption certain declaration of point dogs were heard foreferred a forced in England About the time of Lord Petersburg's yeah it's burned Petersburg's campaigns into Spain.
The English commenced the war of Spanish succession in 17 0 4 but Lord Petersburg was recalled in 17 0 6 it is not likely that he himself took any dogs back with him because he was not a sportsman because he went home by the way of Italy Austria Germany taking a year over the journey and because he left in disgrace but by and disgraced but by the peace of your Tech the war was determined terminated in 1713 and the British army returned to England now nothing could be more natural than for the British officers to carry away with amspecimens of the wonderful pointing dogs from this country in which they had spent nearly 9 years
It is also intelligible enough now that this importation should have escaped the notice of the Chronicles amid the stir of bustle cause by the return of the entire army if they carefully consider the evidence I believe my readers will be for one opinion with me as to the pointing dogs having 1st arrived in England with the returning soldiers after the peace of Europe your Tech 4 though many of the arguments are inductive and much of the evidence is circumstantial they are nonetheless irresistible to nearly to the parts of the puzzle dove tail into 1 another.
Arch right goes on and paid 29 to some things up a little bit hes quoting from Spanish work and = the entirety from the translation he did himself the most notable way and the best sport that exists is to kill them partridges over pointing dogs which is none of the following manner which is done in the following manner as thepartures is have to be found by the powers of the dog which cannot come across them so will by sight or hearing as by smelling the 1st thanks the sportsman Must do on reaching the shooting ground is to know the direction of the wind and having got it in his face seek the birds thus from haunt to haunt on reaching the 1st heart he should look
4 the highest point point and may make a start there holding up the dog and making him keep on crossing the win and the common terms for telling him what's what he has to do or try here back here go there try up try down calling him by his name
Talking about a early pointing dog having an arranging found the game partridge quill Woodcock hairs rabbits and the like which is indeed their nature they stop quite short and bowing their knee binyeah I mean there needs bend their nose and buy their gestures substitutes for words point out the game others glued to the ground away the ground await the hunters who put it into position his crossbow or something ranges 3 to 4 times around the dog not daring to stop walking nor measure his shot until he can spy his quarry covering under a turf that he may get an open shot at it.
Art right does talk about German German dogs on paid 61 heat States States in like manner the old sporting literature of Germany is very interesting but the greater part of it lies beyond the boundaries of this book as the German pointing dogs though probably offshoots from the same tree were in no way considered in the birth of the pointer I shall "however a few passages mainly connected with a method of work which distinctly assist my history of the sport we are the sport and early specimen of this is
Is found in a curious remarkable remical rhymes call form on the title page of something published anonymously in 1569 ""when he perceives game he holds himself still before approaching it and indicates it's presence with his tale to the hunter who follows carefully whenever the scenting dog the scenting dog guides to where the game sets in secure comfort.
Paid 62 another "and guzzner wrote up yesterday gazner wrote about 1551 we Germans and French call these dogs quail dogs because they were it's because their work is particularly concerned with this class suburb the Italians called them netdogs for they helped them with their nets in which they will even allow themselves to be enveloped whence they derive another name with us
. An interesting note that probably doesn't have much to do with the early pointer infusion in the German short hair but probably has a lot to do with the later infusion of an American German shorthaired pointers that have a lot of English pointer in them it seems that in 1880 in England the showdog could become popular and they were getting further and further away from field qualities and they were looking more and more for show qualities so they introduced foxhound yet foxhound and the Fox some of the foxhound coloring And that was a big problem and the reason probably doesn't have anything to do with the early introduction into the German shorthair because Arkwright never there was involved in this type of shows or
So arc Wright had pure English pointers with no contamination of foxhound so when we got the dog beach grow best the black short hair that was in a black pointer that was introduced into the short hairs there were no foxhounds but later that became prevalent in the introduction of English pointers in America into the German short hair probably have a lot of folks down in them the reason for the reason for the coloring and the reason for the high tail which the pure English pointers do not have that probably derived from foxhounds either in Germany I mean in England or later in America and as we talked about the other kind of Clandestine Clandestine breeding through Boyd that English point
May or may not have had contamination my guess is probably not the time that this was going on now when they got those English pointers they probably was around this time or before so the odds are that it was a puring disappointment without foxhound.
So let's see what Arkwright says about the Fox town introduction in around 1880 I would guess but he says it was in the last year of the 18th century that years that the crying sand against the pointer was committed by meeting him with the Fox hound had he been crossed once again with a tender nosed statuess Saturday's Southern town the effect would not have been disastrous but the dashing harem Skinner foxhound was the next similarly mustavius mastevious selection I suppose that the idea of the cross originated from the The superstition indulged in by many that the Fox hunt was a sort of chosen dog and at the
Chosen dog and that it accumulated in our own day with the efforts of fanciers to engraft an antipical appearance on the pointer for showing purposes in the beginning there was no concealment about the matter the cross was discussed with perfect frankness though of course the hound like appearances were obliterated as soon as possible literally however the process was reversed for the great for the great retentance of displayed in acknowledging howblood although the hound type was openly
Advocate colonel Thornton who kept both foxhounds and pointers was the 1st to intermix the 2 Brit's due intermixed the 2 breaths icy lacked quotations from seaham Edwards this commentary on the subject "the sportsmans has improved the breed by selecting the lightest and gayest individuals and by a judacious cross with a Fox owned to procure courage and fleetness his fleetness his high spirit and eagerness for the sport render him infallible it's infallible to extremely difficult of education his dication his impatience and company Subject him to desire to be foremost in the
. Is foremost in the point and not give the sportsman time to come up to run in upon the game particularly down with mark Wright's book page 150 continued the most judicious cross appears to have been with the Fox hound as by this has been acquired speed and courage power and perseverance and it is disabled it is this advantage difficulty on training them to be staunch staunch I believe the celebrated colonel Thornton 1st made the cross and from his producing excellent dogs has been very generally followed Period. unfortunate that colonel Thornton should have succeeded so soon in producing such an eminent dog as dashe's that dog as - this was an extraordinary worker and was sold for a substantial price enough to set half the readers in England crazy to try the same experiment in breeding.
What are well understood amongst sportsmans by the term crossbread dog ribbing guard the concept through an extraordinary animal 1 in 10000 perhaps has been occasionally produced the late colonel Townsend's - Townsend's - is the most celebrated of these semi mongrels - was proceeded by a cross of the Fox town with a highly bred pointer bitch he was remarkable for his style and ranging upon the moors as well as 4 His superior method of finding game he he was equally excellent and partridge shooting and backed other dogs as steadily as possible this dog was sold to the late
Sir Richard Simmons 1 for 160 pounds worth of champagne and burgundy which had been purchased at the French ambassador sale a hawk's head of claret and elegant gun and a pointer with the stipulation that if any accident fell upon him he might render him unfit to hunt he was to be returned to the colonel for 50 guineas - had the misfortune to break his leg he was therefore sent to colonel Thornton who paid the 50 guineas and kept the dog as a stallion from whom however a single well worth keeping was never produced nor was such a circumstance very likely The stock of these cross bread dogs is unfortunately good-for-nothing, The sportsman's 1836 volume volume triple I number 4 page 185.
I find this interesting on page 152 archwright States the following I have used this mode of expression as a best rev expression as the best circulated to convey my mean which may be more clearly understood perhaps by further stating that there are homogeneous and heterogeneous crosses the former desirable and the later rarely answering and intended purpose when for instance the English pointer after breeding in the same family too long becomes too light and is head to narrow a dip of Spanish blood is advisable or the heavier dog of this country may be employed for the requisite purpose which I call a homogeneous cross while the cross with a center and a pointer I deem heterogeneous and it's peterogeneous and with a capable dog happens to be thus obtained
Obtained he is not calculated for pro generation shooters shooters prosecutor by Johnson 1842 page 147.
Arkwright goes on to state for my own part Ellen part are often used to wish that the colonel good sportsman as he undoubtedly was could look down or up to see what a massive parliss invention of a foxhound cross had ultimately made of the pointer since the fancy had taken to wallowing in that blood which he had used home Homo pathically I wished hit's more pathetically I wish him no further punishment than one good look round the pointer classes at the particular show but the type is better now than it was 10 years ago when the pointer ring Reminded one of the schoolboys miss applied slate overspret
With knots and crosses last greenham show 1901 I spied a bit of really distinguished appearanyet the stingwashed appearance and as she held from an unexpected quarter the pleasure was doubled i have lately seen 1 or 2 others of the right sort also cropping up so let us hope that they like the snowdrops Herald a happy re awakening when the pointer shall be to use a Shakespeare an expression fancy free.
Some of what Arkwright says could be used today as far as pretty German shorters he says of course as in the case of - a violent outcross may produce a good even an estimate animal but it destroys all continuity and breeding and is responsible for a large population of marlboroubashing amogos one swallow does not make summer nor 1 dog a team about crosses for the pointer I must add the following opinions taken from the book of 2 of the most famous 19th century writers on sport.
The further any dog is removed from the original Spanish pointer the worst the dog is and consequently all attempts to cross the pointer with any other breed must necessarily deteriorate the deteriorate to breed why they should the pointer be crossed with dogs which in so far as the sport of the field our concerns scarcely inherit one quality in common with him attempts however are constantly made to improve the pointer by a cross with a bloodhound Fox hound Newfoundland dogged the mastiff sometimes with a view of improving his appearance and bringing him to some fancied standard of perfection but in reality introducing a deformity 1 of these imaginary standards
Of perform perfection is that to one part through Spanish blood the pointer should have in him and 8th of the Fox town and a 16th of a bloodhound a cross will sometimes produced dogs which are in some eyes the some eyes the beauty ideal of beauty but however handsome such dogs may be they will necessarily present some qualities not belong in to the pointer for Amsterdam for instance across with the hound Gives the propensity to trace hairs if not to give tongue we'll give tongue a thoroughbred pointer carries his head well up with ranging he warranging he will not give time
He will not give tongue nor nor has he much desire to Chase footed game the hound pointer may succeed the pointer may sometimes be detected by his coarse ears by his tail being curled upwards and being carried high or by his rough coat an occasional cross with the master for newful and dog is said to increase the fitness of nose butthe ness of knows but it is converting the pointer into a Mirror retriever.
The best pointer is the offspring of a pointer bitch by a pointer dog such a one as nearly broken by nature the Spanish pointer seldom requires the whip the hound pointer has never enough of it 1 of the main sources of the sportsman's pleasure is to see the dog's point well
. The shooter's Handbook by Oakley 1842 page 91.
. Pointing is hereditary in pointers and setters and puppies of a good bread and of a well educated ancestry take to pointing in game as naturally as to eating their food and not only do they of their own accord point steadily but also back each other quarter their ground regularly and in fact instinctively follow the example of the high bread and well-brought-up ancestors for my part I think it quite a superficial double crossing a good breed of pointers with foxhounds or any other kind of dog by the way of adding speed and strength you lose more than you gain by giving at the same time Hard headdiness and obscency it is much better
It is much better if you fancy your breed of pointer's or setters to be growing small or degenerate to cross them with some different family up pointers or setters of a stronger or faster make of which you will be sure to find plenty with very little trouble wild sports of the Highlands by Saint John 1846 page 116.
All right let's finish up with the arc right just because what he has to say here can be of great importance to the German short hairbreeder but in a slightly different manner "page 159 let me repeat that to cross a pointer breed with a non pointing breed is to reduce the offspring of the pointing instinct by 1/2 and therefore very often in breaking these marginal supportin these mongrel's appointing that should come naturally has to be taught by severe and laborous lessons the same remark applies still more forcibly to backing which is simple pointing on trust without verification The reason why the black breed of pointers of pointers and I energetic here that that's what was yet what was placed into the German short hair through the archwright pointers.
. The reason why the black bread breed of pointers at the present day surpasses the piebald and its instinctive knowledge of its work is because it has not been crossed fortunately its habitat was not in the shot sires Norwood Norwood a - of tricolor have improved its complexion had all the breeds of pointers been kept equally pure there would be 50% more pointers used in Britain today but those wild but those wild disobedient half hounds are a vexation of spirit.
Far be it that for me to desperate is to disappreciate the Fox hound a perfect dog for its own work and I should consider a freshould consider a fresh infusion of pointer blood into him just as objectible as the converse but I maintain that the pointer ought to be the more courageous and delicate nose of the 2 considering the nature of its duties for a pointer has to gallop for a longer time than a hound and on the moors over much rougher ground while this continuous galloping has to be done in cold blood before finding his game not on hot pursuit of it then frc
As to knows the pointer in his work has to and does catch descent and far longer distance than a hound for often I have seen the pack and covered nearly surrounded some Bush and happy ignorance that the Fox was there till it jumped up right among them to compare the 2 breeds I must borrow an illustration from the army from the army the Fox hound is like a private soldier well is private soldier well made active is active strong
Courageous and by training obedient but there it is he has no scope for intelligent he will be soon drafted as a scooter order he do not keep with the pack on the other hand the pointer with all its talents of a hound and Minnie supergated resembles a scout he works singularly receiving orders it is true but depending on his own wits For the mode of carrying them out in short he has to preserve by himself in his quest to act on his own initiative and to use much craft that he may find without disturbing
And his forsooth is the animal the product of generations of high breeding to be improved by a cross of a Fox hound. Period!
. I am convinced from my own experience that the Fox town crowd cross has proved disastrous 2 to the sporting value of those families a poinyet those families of pointers into which it has been introduced as might indeed be expected when one considers the very different branches of the sport in which the 22 breeds are used on myself I've tried many of these dogs with a - of the hound in them and I have found when they work But they take much more breaking than appear pointers being unruly unscbeing unruly uncertain jealous of backing hair chasers and seekers after footscent in preference
Impreference to body scent and I have also found a good many that are non workers being almost devoid a bird hunting ambition and so slack milded as to be practically useless of course there are brilliant exceptions but they are exceptions and even from such there is no certainty in breeding
Another pointer reference is in Bryan's book on page 7 she States it is anniversary to compare the English pointer dog special with triff 56 of Walden specials owner Mr. G Thorpe barnham also owned a winning pointer bitch Stella whose sire was a famous stud sancho Stella closely resembles a pointer called sancho he picked it retrieving a facet in a painting by Meredith Hardy's book one wonders whether a relative of these dogs consider to be an outstanding specimen of performing England was used by early German breeders and Hans was behind Nero.
Another reference in Bryant's book on paid 71 of the greatest pillars of the breed are the sand 1830 V was a great great grandson of tell on both sides of his pedigree although art's head type appears to have been distinctly different from tells the virtues of health longevity and a docile type for which tale had been noted were certainly represented it in artists tell from the photograph appears to be rather light and color it was in the year of his bird 19 0 7 that the black arthrite pointer beach Grove best was brought to Germany with the object of improving both pigment and air sending ability high nose one man involved with an importation of bass was Christian Boyd owner of the famous
. All to do a favor a fix ALTEN AUA fix a FFI X. Her Boyd was merchant whose business took him to England where he spent some years whilst there he developed appreciation for the best working pointers and upon its return to Germany,
He set about producing service or hair pointers which could hold their own with the pointers whilst retaining their resatility in other spheres Boyd yesterday'd followed a policy of inbreeding and line breeding to fix type and indeed the descendants of his dogs in particular the bitch Bessie altenu 6 altenu 693C and the dog Mars alteno prours alteno proved to be of tremendous and lasting importance to the breed both mar's altitude wealth and 1914 artist sandwell to 1921 where descendants from Bessie The combination of those 2 dogs largely through Mars sun being made into artist daughters was considered by breed historians to be ideal mar
Mars was a favorite of doctor Clement who praised him for his confirmation and for his fine nose in the adjustable desire to his bold desire to track inability he was apparently a very hard headed dog and very sharp with predators artist stands there's artist Stan's artist sand in contrast to Mars was as mentioned earlier noted for his calmness of temperament his steel his skill exhibited however the desired qualities of a working ability in waterwoods and field both Mars and artists were believed to have had fairly recent infusions of appointer blood in Mars case it came from his grandsire Hassan altenu 712K who was thought to have been cited by a pointer in artist's case it was the dog
Golo howletzer 123 see whose distinctively dished face suggests point or origin artist himself sported a point of point of his head while a smart profile with the longest muzzle and ramp nose would meet with approval even to day it is inner resting to know that artist sancire ilamo zote Vaughan cushioned June 21T had a number of watched watch dogs in his pedigree wash in his pedigree wash was the prefix of doctor washed her and associate with her Boyd in the introduction of black pointer to the breed one wonders of artist pointer characteristics stem from those dogs as well as from the rather controversial Golo Period